Remember Me? Street FIghter V Sound Mod Tekken 3 Sound pack beta by SaturnFrost / Preview. See cards from the most recent sets and discover what players just like you are saying about them. Straightflush (23.04.2019 08:45) @Joven, or when your opponent casts banefire X=10. Split cards with aftermath have a new frame treatment — the half you can cast from your hand is oriented the same as other cards you'd cast from your hand, while the half you can cast from your graveyard is a traditional split card half. Especially regarding the "You may choose new targets" part. Street FIghter V Sound Mod MVC2 Sound pack beta by SaturnFrost / Preview. He wasn't getting me but it was definitely the move to make. I still want to see someone do this with a huge Banefire. This is where my group starts to disagree heavily. Part 3 is to choose a target for your copy of veto. "Clone" can target "Counter" if "Counter" is a legal target for "Clone" meaning Negate works, but Essence Scatter doesn't.Also, "Clone" might be able to target Reversal as well as it is still on the stack resolving. I feel bad countering someone's spell and even worse countering their commander, because I find it less enjoyable to play, I play it less which means I'm worse at it. your copied counterspell can´t target itself and the … You'd be better off copying your original spell in response instead of the counter. [..]. This is how I understand this interaction would, but I don't want to read a million lines of arguing. The copy that Kalamax makes can target and bounce the original Reversal back to your hand to cast again on the next turn and Kalamax can make a copy of one instant on each player's turn. Craig -(@Scraignoth) I'm an Aggro/Midrange player and have always struggled with control. Browse through cards from Magic's entire history. James H. A bit of an interesting spell, Narset’s Reversal is one part Unsubstantiate and one part Twincast. IE you have to choose targets for the copied spell before narsets reversal leaves the stack so your copied counter spell can target the narsets reversal used to create it. If I use Narset's reversal to clone [[Expansion]] to target itself, then cast [[Expansion]] on the clone I'll have infinite copies of a spell copying itself. So I'm just gonna leave it as is. Fyi, because of the way narsets reversal and spell resolution works you can use narsets reversal like a bad imps mischief. If the Important spell is being cast by YOU, you should target that spell, which will fissle all counters targeting it and give you a chance to cast it again. The most recent example i can think of is the rulings on malicious affliction. MYTHICSPOILER.COM THE CYCLICAL MTG SPOILER MythicSpoiler is a dedicated visual spoiler, designed to let you EXPLORE, DISCOVER and EXPERIENCE new Magic the Gathering sets in a simple, sortable gallery. Overall, I think it’s pretty clear that Temur Reclamation is the best deck in Ikoria Standard and I see no reason why it won’t continue to be so. My curiosity here would be for something like bolt bend, but Narset's feels like a similar question. Doomsday gets countered. Well, it's not quite that bad. The wording of the spell is important. The copy will then not resolve because Reversal will be gone. You cast it targeting counterspell and your copy fizzles. What's New? After everything required to put the spell on the stack is resolved then narsets reversal leaves the stack. Narsets reversal bounces the counter spell and a copy is placed on the stack, narsets reversal is still on the stack until that spell is "fully" on the stack. But beyond just having hyper-specific cards, the board was built in such a way that it could find these unique one-ofs that perform similar jobs and join together against it. (and you must choose one as the wording said you may choose a new target, but this inherently means that it's original target is maintained unless you choose a new target.). This would mean that "clone" may not target "C". Having a high Luck will also improve the Critical Chance with all … You can however target the Reversal, it's still on the stack as it resolves and thus you can choose it while you are choosing new targets. You can choose to target Narset's Reversal if it is a legal target of the counterspell that you are copying. Doomsday is put on the stack, veto is put on the stack, reversal is put on the stack. This only works when your original spell is an instant or sorcery. Narsets reversal bounces the counter spell and a copy is placed on the stack, narsets reversal is still on the stack until that spell is "fully" on the stack. leave the target as it is, which is no good since "C" targeted "I" and that's not what I want. Born Gosu has been focused on the Chobo Team League for most of it's lifespan, and now we're looking to make the next step. You can, however, change that spell’s target to Redirect. Is a spell targeting itself after being redirected to new targets generally not allowed? We're mainly looking for platinum players to compete in the Validity Team League, but also offer regular clan wars, in house leagues, and offer many opportunities to compete in outside tournaments and individual leagues. Stack resolves. 1 Narset's Reversal 1 ... Counterspell that can be bounced for reuse. This has been established as a ruling before. bartist. The veto would fizzle as it's original target won't exist when it attempts to resolve. This means they're down 2 cards, you're down 1 card and you won the counter war. Each deck will contain fifteen new cards. "You may choose a new target". You may choose new targets for the copy. Reversal is still on the stack too. Search for the perfect addition to your deck. Press J to jump to the feed. When it goes to resolve, the copy fails to find its target and fizzles. cast Narset's Reversal target "important spell" to copy it and get original "important spell" back in your hand. I agree. Magic The Gathering singles, decks, supplies, sealed product from Wizards of the Coast at great prices from Star City Games - the World's Largest Magic: The Gathering Store! He responded with Narset's Reversal, targeting my Swine.I hesitatingly responded with Misdirection.Here's where the question(s) started: 1. This is correct a spell isn't a legal target for itself. For example you cant cast doomblade without any creatures just to get a cast trigger off something like "when you cast a spell, draw a card". I struggle with playing blue. Thanks a ton for these clarifications! Narset's Reversal from War of the Spark for . However, the best trick here is to use Narset's Reversal on the original spell you want to resolve if it's an instant or sorcery. So either you use your copy of veto to counter Doomsday or you choose a new target, there are no legal targets other than Doomsday. You're right in that a 1 for 1 situation it won't stop a counterspell. When a spell is cast it has to have a target. Edit: sorry as others pointed out the copy can targeteting itself, and it will function as an Unsubstantiate/Remand, have your copy target the narsets reversal (and then the copy will "fizzle" on resolution", usually narsets reversal is less good as an answer and more good when it hits gas spells. Yeah this is actually much better since it doesnt give them their veto back. Set Name: War of the Spark: Rarity R: Number 62: SubType Instant: OracleText Copy target instant or sorcery spell, then return it to its owner’s hand. You bounce their counterspell to their hand and put a copy on the stack. Ethersworn Canonist is a great card against Storm combo, for example, and both Pod and Chord can find it for me. In particular the whole counterspell/draw go style. Insight References. This frame treatment is for your convenience and has no rules significance.Aftermath is present on the "bottom half" of a split card. What you do is change the counterspell's target to Narset's reversal itself (Reversal doesn't leave the stack until the copied spell has targets). Wizards.com is down for routine server maintenance. In some cases, later text on the card may modify the meaning of earlier text [..]. Curse of the Swine, Narset's Reversal, and Misdirection Asked by eternallee 1 month ago. Join us discussing news, tournaments, gameplay, deckbuilding, strategy, lore, fan art, cosplay, and more. If the Important spell is being cast by your Opponent you should use Narset's Reversal as a counterspell and bounce it back to them. It’s pretty nifty, thanks to its flexibility: you can use it as a pseudo-counterspell against an opponent’s spell, or you can use it on your own spell as a two-mana buyback on it. Result: copy resolves, counterspell fizzels afterwards, 3b. Dit is echt een hilarische kaart. I'm incredibly glad to read all these corrections since they tend to come up every now and then in similar discussions :). The player may leave any number of the targets unchanged, even if those targets would be illegal. They have a counterspell in their hand and the stack is a copied counterspell targeting your Narset's Reversal (invalid now), and your original spell. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. This is a subreddit dedicated to playing the Commander format of Magic: The Gathering at the highest power level possible. If you cast Redirect targeting a spell that targets a spell on the stack (like Cancel does, for example), you can’t change that spell’s target to itself. 114.7d If an effect allows a player to “choose new targets” for a spell or ability, the player may leave any number of the targets unchanged, even if those targets would be illegal. I made a lot of good plays too, tougher to remember all those lol. It is absolutely not allowed, the new targets must be legal. 706.10c Some effects copy a spell or ability and state that its controller may choose new targets for the copy. That way your spell still resolves and you don't have to worry about the veto and you get your original spell back. I cannot cast a counterspell targeting itself since I need to specify the targets before it gets put on the stack. However, using reversal on a counter outside of a multi spell counter war is not the best way to be getting value from a card. : CONTACT US PRIVACY POLICY The spell isn’t countered; it just no longer exists. This part is wrong. 1 Abrade 1 Arcane Signet 1 Beast Within 1 Birthing Pod 1 Bonus Round 1 Brainstorm 1 Carpet of Flowers 1 Chain of Vapor 1 Chord of Calling 1 Chrome Mox 1 Compost 1 Counterspell 1 Crop Rotation 1 Cyclonic Rift 1 Dig Through Time 1 Fact or Fiction 1 Fierce Guardianship 1 Flusterstorm 1 Force of Will 1 Fork 1 Frantic Search 1 Harrow 1 Impulse 1 Into the Roil 1 Mana Crypt 1 Mana Drain 1 … As you put the copy on the stack, you much choose a legal target. No u cant. Wait I got a question, can the target sorcery or instant be from the graveyard? Yes, if you copy a counterspell the counter will leave the stack, forcing you to counter your own spell. At the time that you put the copy on the stack you will then have two things on the stack, Narset's Reversal (mid resolution) and your original spell. 7/10. I've recently had a discussion with my playgroup about the precise ruling on [[Narset's Reversal]]. Yes. 720.3 Sometimes a loop can be fragmented, meaning that each player involved in the loop performs an independent action that results in the same game state being reached multiple times. But why would you not just target the important spell with the Narset's Reversal? As others have said, it can in certain scenarios. [..], 601.2c The player announces their choice of an appropriate object or player for each target the spell requires. Super versatile. But it gets real nice after that. The value IMO instead lies in stealing your opponent's game winning X spell or using reversal to steal their early game value. So I should be able to select itself as a target. I cast an important spell (say [[Doomsday]] or [[Flash]]), let's call it "I"mportant, Someone plays a counterspell (say [[Dovin's Veto]]), let's call it "C"ounter, I react with [[Narset's Reversal]], creating a clone of "C", let's call it "clone". Assuming it's an instant/sorcery. Narset’s Reversal and the copy resolve before the original spell would have resolved. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. This would also mean that spells may target themselves, which can be an issue. You choose new targets as part of the resolution of Reversal, so it is still on the stack at this point. Your important spell is then free to resolve safely. Sorta, you bounce the counterspell and have the copy of the spell target reversal itself which will then be an illegal target when the copy tries to resolve an it will be countered from having no legal targets. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. joven (18.04.2019 20:42) "Narset's Reversal" is only good in special situations, where you bounce your own spell to save it from being countered. Each booster pack will contain a planeswalker (36 Planeswalkers total) War of the Spark Art Buy Bundle Box – $31.99 Buy Booster Box – $94.99 Buy Combo Pack – $124.99 Buy Booster – $2.99 Buy Variety Pack – $144.99 Buy Planeswalker Decks – $22.99 1 - If you cast Narset's Reversal, targeting their counterspells. The Reversal Sometimes a metagame will become so polarized that public enemy number one really is just that. Press J to jump to the feed. It can only target spells on the stack, so pretty much spells that have been cast (or have been copied etc) but not yet resolved. A counterspell, copy spell, couterspell war winner and a tempo play in one card. Forum; Forum Home; FAQ; Calendar; Community. The copied counter spell has no target and fizzles. Aftermath creates virtual card advantag… If the player chooses to change some or all of the targets, the new targets must be legal. Also a wizard for Riptide Laboratory ... missed opportunity to narsets reversal a rakdos's return for 8 on niv. They could cast their counter spell again, or if they are out of resources, then the copied counterspell will attempt to resolve, it will fizzle then your spell will resolve. 114.5. either because the copy wouldn’t help me or they’re just able to recast the spell after reversal and win. If you copy a spell, you control the copy. Magic The Gathering, magic cards, singles, decks, card lists, deck ideas, wizard of the coast, all of the cards you need at great prices are available at Cardkingdom. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. It can be the target for the copy, which will then fizzle. So is there some rules part I'm missing? as for countering you use it second on your counter spell so you get that back to hand and get another counter on the stack. your copied counterspell can´t target itself and the only target is your "important spell" (don´t do that). Gatherer is the Magic Card Database. I thought reversal's copy couldn't target reversal as part of resolution it made a copy. Buy this decklist from Card Kingdom Buy this decklist from TCGplayer Narset of the Ancient Way Narset's Reversal 1 Bedlam Reveler 1 Kykar, Wind's Fury 1 Monastery Mentor 1 Monastery Swiftspear 1 Snapcaster Mage 1 Soul Warden 1 Soulfire Grand Master 1 Thassa's Oracle 1 Walking Ballista 1 Young Pyromancer 1 Abrade 1 Brainstorm 1 Channeled Force 1 Counterspell 1 Dovin's Veto 1 Force of … Groups; Member List; Forum Actions Whoops. 5/3/2019: If a spell is returned to its owner’s hand, it’s removed from the stack and thus will not resolve. You can choose Reversal as the target of your copy. 3a. Unlike other S.P.E.C.I.A.L. Once the player has decided what the copy’s targets will be, the copy is put onto the stack with those targets. since I need to specify the targets before it gets put on the stack. Trending posts and videos related to Wheel Of Fortune Mtg! And actually giving you your important spell back, with another iteration of it on the stack. I cannot cast a counterspell targeting itself. Narset's Reversal. Normally, spell's instructions are followed in order, but this is one of the exceptions noted in 608.2c and as stated explicitly in 706.10c, 608.2c The controller of the spell or ability follows its instructions in the order written. So here's my understanding of the rulings regarding [[Narset's Reversal]]: I create "clone", putting it onto the stack, then, "clone" may be redirected to new target(s). Yeah, always target your own spell, you get it back and they wasted their counter that way. Narset's Reversal - (G) (SF) (txt)Doomsday - (G) (SF) (txt)Flash - (G) (SF) (txt)Dovin's Veto - (G) (SF) (txt)Expansion - (G) (SF) (txt)[[cardname]] or [[cardname|SET]] to call. At this point the only valid target remaining on the stack. You could also just use the reversal to bounce and copy your important spell, making their counter fizzle in the first place. Commander 2015 will feature five two-color—enemy pair—100-card Commander decks, along with 55 new Magic cards legal in Eternal formats (Vintage and Legacy), but not legal in Standard, Block Constructed, or Modern. A diverse community of players devoted to Magic: the Gathering, a trading card game ("TCG") produced by Wizards of the Coast and originally designed by Richard Garfield. I’ve tried this card in most of my decks now and been unimpressed with it compared to harder answers like delay, counterspell, etc. Street Fighter V Mod - Street Fighter III Ultimate Audio Pack WIP by Trustful_Whale / Preview Street Fighter Alpha/Zero 3 Menu BGM pack by Asakim / Previews: Character select, Versus scren, Victory If you counter a counterspell, and they respond with another counter spell, you can Narset's Reversal your own counterspell to return it to your hand, and get another counterspell on the stack. If you remember back to Caw-Blade, for example, you remember a time like this. cast Narset's Reversal target counterspell to copy it and your opponent get original counterspell back in his hand. This half is turned sideways to remind you that this half can only be cast from your graveyard. Reversal is still on the stack too. A spell or ability on the stack is an illegal target for itself. the copy is created either with new legal targets or the existing targets of the original. Result: copied counterspell targets "important spell", because original counterspell isn´t on the stack anymore. If that happens, the active player (or, if the active player is not involved in the loop, the first player in turn order who is involved) must then make a different game choice so the loop does not continue. Since it isn't on the stack at the time of me declaring targets, the counterspell itself is not a valid target. Instead, every two points of Luck adds one point to all skills. Narset's Reversal: can be repeatable for two mana to copy any instant/sorcery that's cast. A fast, powerful, comprehensive Magic: The Gathering card search. We apologize for the inconvenience and thank you for your patience! Instead, use it to copy tutors, draw spells, green suns zenith, any X spell really, but stealing someone's tutor is usually the BEST route. A counterspell, copy spell, couterspell war winner and a tempo play in one card. And if noone had a counterspell or a way to end the game this would continue indefinitely.. At which point Narset's reversal resolves. IE you have to choose targets for the copied spell before narsets reversal leaves the stack so your copied counter spell can target the narsets reversal used to create it. Part 1 of reversals resolution is to copy veto. 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